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TAK

05-11-2010, 02:17 PM

Reminiscing about proper regular watering holes of the 80's sadly not a single one has gone unchanged and not for the better.

The Grove, Lordship Lane.
The Herne Tavern, Peckham Rye.
The East Dulwich Tavern, Goose Green.
The Good Mixer, Inverness Street.
The Camden Stores, Parkway.
The Edinburgh Castle, Mornington Terrace.
The Blue Posts, Berwick Street.

Good times, feeling old.

Justin

05-11-2010, 02:19 PM

Alleyns Head (the small bar with Sheridan the barman, not the larger bar)
Crown and Greyhound
3 Tuns

biggus mickus

05-11-2010, 02:21 PM

Golden Lion, Maple Rd.

The Swan, West Wickham.

The Goat House.

jone-zee

05-11-2010, 02:21 PM

The Melbourne Wallington (Yes I know its an O'Neils now)
The Blackwater Sutton
The Victory Sutton
The Cottage of Content Carshalton
The Cricketers Carshalton
The Rose Carshalton
The St Helier Arms Carshalton
The Propeller Waddon

old git

05-11-2010, 02:26 PM

Red Lion Coulsdon:sob: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1383/1303840634_7852301154_o.jpg

jone-zee

05-11-2010, 02:29 PM

Is The Red Deer still going?

Il Padrino

05-11-2010, 02:31 PM

Reminiscing about proper regular watering holes of the 80's sadly not a single one has gone unchanged and not for the better.

The Grove, Lordship Lane.
The Herne Tavern, Peckham Rye.
The East Dulwich Tavern, Goose Green.

Have you seen The Magdela recently as you seem to know the area? :(

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 02:34 PM

The Bunkers Nob

thefox

05-11-2010, 02:34 PM

The Crown East Grinstead now got a naff name.

Dorset Arms same apparently now a gastro pub. :veryangry

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 02:35 PM

The Crown - Shirley
The London Tavern (Murphy's) - Penge

OscillateWildly

05-11-2010, 02:42 PM

Pubs closed because people stopped spending as much money in them. A pub on every corner will never return.

Scotland's No9

05-11-2010, 02:42 PM

Crown and Greyhound

Ahh, the Dog and Vomit - happy days.

thefox

05-11-2010, 02:43 PM

The Crown - Shirley
The London Tavern (Murphy's) - Penge

The second one closed down in 1947. :p

silverymoon

05-11-2010, 02:43 PM

Croydon Beer Keller
Goat House
Murphys Penge

Andy in Rome

05-11-2010, 02:43 PM

Have you seen The Magdela recently as you seem to know the area? :(

oof - that is one awful makeover...

And to think that I thought it had gone downhill when they changed it from that weird 'grotto' look to the naff 'country farmhouse' look all those years ago!

fang

05-11-2010, 02:45 PM

Reminiscing about proper regular watering holes of the 80's sadly not a single one has gone unchanged and not for the better.

The Grove, Lordship Lane.
The Herne Tavern, Peckham Rye.
The East Dulwich Tavern, Goose Green.
The Good Mixer, Inverness Street.
The Camden Stores, Parkway.
The Edinburgh Castle, Mornington Terrace.
The Blue Posts, Berwick Street.

Good times, feeling old.

Cheer up! Just got back after a swift one in The Blue Posts In Berwick st.

sw16girl

05-11-2010, 02:46 PM

The Pied Bull Streatham :)
http://img01.beerintheevening.com/4c/4cb9b259512e5b40111678344d804ebe.jpg
The Greencoat Boy Westminster :)
http://www.lgf.org.uk/assets/Uploads/_resampled/SetHeight275-Greencoat-Boy.jpg
The Sussex Norbury :(

BaldEagle96

05-11-2010, 02:46 PM

The Propeller Waddon

My local back in the 80's.

EagleSE24

05-11-2010, 02:48 PM

Crown and Greyhound in Dulwich hasn't changed that much has it? Although I've only been pubbing since the late 90s.

Gowlett in Peckham is still good. Montpelier on Choumert Road (Peckham Rye) has improved. Area is fast nappy-valleyising* though.

I practically lived in the Magdala on L'ship Lane from 1998-2000. Really saddens me to see what it's become. Smoking ban has had a massive effect on the pub.

*Copyright EagleSE24

Phil's Barber

05-11-2010, 02:48 PM

The Blue Anchor.

TheMexicanHorse

05-11-2010, 02:51 PM

The Melbourne Wallington (Yes I know its an O'Neils now)
The Blackwater Sutton
The Victory Sutton
The Cottage of Content Carshalton
The Cricketers Carshalton
The Rose Carshalton
The St Helier Arms Carshalton
The Propeller Waddon

What was the really rough pub in the Hackbridge/MJ area?
:confused:

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 02:51 PM

Cheer up! Just got back after a swift one in The Blue Posts In Berwick st.

All of the Blue Posts in and around Soho are still going strong. The Newman Street one is a Sam Smiths so cheap as chips for the west end :p

jone-zee

05-11-2010, 02:52 PM

What was the really rough pub in the Hackbridge/MJ area?
:confused:

The Skinners Arms

Justin

05-11-2010, 02:52 PM

Crown and Greyhound in Dulwich hasn't changed that much has it? Although I've only been pubbing since the late 90s.

No it hasnt.

The only real difference is back in the day they got really stroppy if you took a pint outside onto the front. Now they put tables there.

TheMexicanHorse

05-11-2010, 02:54 PM

The Skinners Arms

I was about to edit my post, as I had that name in my head.

Heard many a story through the years, growing up around that area about the said pub.
:p

Scroatey

05-11-2010, 02:58 PM

The Ship on Kennington Road has had a lick of paint but is still a good proper boozer.

The Fox and Hounds in Longthorpe, Peterborough sadly got turned into a gastro pub after many many years of youthful custom :(

TheMexicanHorse

05-11-2010, 02:59 PM

Is the Tudor Rose (Old Coulsdon) still going?

Used to pop in there for a pint at lunch time's as was next door to college.

Last I heard it at shut down, it was a Harvesters when I used to visit.

old git

05-11-2010, 03:02 PM

Is the Tudor Rose (Old Coulsdon) still going?

Used to pop in there for a pint at lunch time's as was next door to college.

Last I heard it at shut down, it was a Harvesters when I used to visit.
It seems to be renovated every 6 months!I think it has reopened again as some other chain food pub.

OldPeanutSeller

05-11-2010, 03:08 PM

The Melbourne Wallington (Yes I know its an O'Neils now)
The Blackwater Sutton
The Victory Sutton
The Cottage of Content Carshalton
The Cricketers Carshalton
The Rose Carshalton
The St Helier Arms Carshalton
The Propeller Waddon

Piss head.

fang

05-11-2010, 03:08 PM

All of the Blue Posts in and around Soho are still going strong. The Newman Street one is a Sam Smiths so cheap as chips for the west end :p

The Dog and Duck is still my after work Soho favourite. The Intrepid Fox on Wardour St was another loss.

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 03:10 PM

The Addington Hotel

http://www.francisfrith.com/new-addington/photos/hotel-c1965_n165035/

budgie

05-11-2010, 03:18 PM

The Rose and Crown, Crown Point.

The Cambridge, Crystal Palace.

The Queens Arms, Crystal Palace.

The White Swan, Crystal Palace.

The CPH, Crystal Palace.

Adlerhorst

05-11-2010, 03:21 PM

Pubs closed because people stopped spending as much money in them. A pub on every corner will never return.Quite.

Though one has to ask the question why?

Local example for me. The Stag on Fleet Road. Taken over and done up. Previous occupants, about three. Since it has been re-opened it has been very very busy.

Here's a write up from old boozer people

This roomy Victorian pub (ca. 1855) was once a reliable back street boozer. It changed hands recently and re-opened in September 2008 as a trendy food pub (cutting down selection of real ales). New owners (two brothers who started with the Regent in Kensal Green) painted the entire vast Victorian frontage black, for some reason, pared down the interior to minimalist, with wooden tables and chairs, darkness punctuated by candlelight, voluble music, and re-vamped the huge garden behind (where you could practically play bowls if you wanted to, and if there were any grass). Pub is dog-friendly. Menu features some pub specials, gourmet burgers and different kinds of cheeses. They seem to be catering for the younger, trendy set (of which there might be a few in the neighbourhood), but it’s hard to see this concept lasting. The former clientele has probably decamped to the White Horse down the road, which has so far largely resisted the trendy allure. Not what you would call a real ale hot-bed.

In short, the public don't want to go to traditional pubs any more. Times change. Some will survive as there is some demand, but most will have to change or die. Complaining about it sounds a bit like my grandmother telling me how great the 50s were. In years to come it'll all change again.

fang

05-11-2010, 03:26 PM

The Rose and Crown, Crown Point.

The Cambridge, Crystal Palace.

The Queens Arms, Crystal Palace.

The White Swan, Crystal Palace.

The CPH, Crystal Palace.

The Cambridge is still going, if you like that sort of thing, The CPH is now The Grape and Grain which is the best pub on the Triangle.The White Swan is The Westow House and the Queens Arms is the Black Sheep. Both are better than the Pubs which preceded them.

mickiet09

05-11-2010, 03:32 PM

Thornton Heath pubs which have bitten the dust include The Victory, Prince of Wales, The Grange, Fountain Head, and apparently The Parchmore Tavern (formerly The Simla) is next. The Wilton Arms is currently The Thomas Farley. Oh and The Crescent at the other end of Whitehorse bridge has gone.

CPFC2010

05-11-2010, 03:32 PM

Railway Bell (Gipsy Hill) - was Evening Standard Pub of the Year in about 1980 in the days when Youngs was a great beer.
Dulwich Wood House (Sydenham Hill) - great photos of the Crystal Palace on fire
Goat House (South Norwood) - now a block of flats
Fountain Head (Thornton Heath) - became really grotty until Youngs closed it.

Now, of course, I drink Sambrooks Wandle Ale at Selhurst Park

mickiet09

05-11-2010, 03:37 PM

The people who had the Fountain have got the Lord Napier (jazz pub Beulah Road).

waddoneagle

05-11-2010, 03:40 PM

Railway Arms, Leatherhead, Bull Hotel, Leatherhead:(

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 03:43 PM

Quite.

Though one has to ask the question why?

Local example for me. The Stag on Fleet Road. Taken over and done up. Previous occupants, about three. Since it has been re-opened it has been very very busy.

Here's a write up from old boozer people

This roomy Victorian pub (ca. 1855) was once a reliable back street boozer. It changed hands recently and re-opened in September 2008 as a trendy food pub (cutting down selection of real ales). New owners (two brothers who started with the Regent in Kensal Green) painted the entire vast Victorian frontage black, for some reason, pared down the interior to minimalist, with wooden tables and chairs, darkness punctuated by candlelight, voluble music, and re-vamped the huge garden behind (where you could practically play bowls if you wanted to, and if there were any grass). Pub is dog-friendly. Menu features some pub specials, gourmet burgers and different kinds of cheeses. They seem to be catering for the younger, trendy set (of which there might be a few in the neighbourhood), but it’s hard to see this concept lasting. The former clientele has probably decamped to the White Horse down the road, which has so far largely resisted the trendy allure. Not what you would call a real ale hot-bed.

In short, the public don't want to go to traditional pubs any more. Times change. Some will survive as there is some demand, but most will have to change or die. Complaining about it sounds a bit like my grandmother telling me how great the 50s were. In years to come it'll all change again.

I wonder if they'll ever come back into fashion as a pastiche, as O'Neills etc did with the advent of the Irish Pub in the 90s.

Lost pubs from my neck of the woods include:

Deptford Arms (Deptford)
Centurion (Deptford)
Crystal Palace Tavern (Deptford)
Lord Wolseley (Brockley)
Railway Hotel / Bradys (Brixton)

evvo111

05-11-2010, 03:46 PM

No idea whether the pubs are still going but:

The Golden Lion (Sydenham)
The Rutland (Catford Hill?)
The Two Brewers (Catford Hill?)
The CPH
The Forest Barn (Forest Hill)
The Greyhound (Sydenham)
The Brockley Jack

big bad John

05-11-2010, 03:50 PM

Thornton Heath pubs which have bitten the dust include The Victory, Prince of Wales, The Grange, Fountain Head, and apparently The Parchmore Tavern (formerly The Simla) is next. The Wilton Arms is currently The Thomas Farley. Oh and The Crescent at the other end of Whitehorse bridge has gone.

The Brigstock has gone, as has the Plough and Harrow. Along Broad Green, the Half-Moon and Rising Sun have long ceased being home to the local reprobates.

Blind_Eagle

05-11-2010, 04:06 PM

Surprised the Shirley Poppy hasn't had a mention. It was a proper Palace pub back in the mid to late 70's. :(

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/surrey/pics/croydon_shirleypoppy.JPG

Bloody heartbreaking that it's now a Macdonalds.

This website (http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/surrey/croydon.html) is worth a look if you really want to get depressed about closed pubs in Croydon.

mickiet09

05-11-2010, 04:07 PM

Yes The Brigstock. I had forgotten about that one. Didn't know the Plough and Harrow had gone though.

Thanet Eagle

05-11-2010, 04:08 PM

Three Tuns - Beckenham

ever hopeful!

05-11-2010, 04:11 PM

Golden Lion, Maple Rd.

The Swan, West Wickham.

The Goat House.

My parents house was just up the road from the Golden Lion, on the corner of Stodart. Ah mixed memories!!

FORZA SELHURST

05-11-2010, 04:15 PM

The Forest Barn (Forest Hill)

'The Forest Barn' became 'The Malt Shovel' something like twenty years ago!

Penshaw Eagle

05-11-2010, 04:15 PM

Pubs of my youth
The Cricketers (Addiscombe rd)
The Builders Arms (Leslie Park Rd)
Royal Standard (Sheldon Street)
The Ship (high Street croydon)

;) ;) :angel:

evvo111

05-11-2010, 04:18 PM

'The Forest Barn' became 'The Malt Shovel' something like twenty years ago!

I used to go down there in my last year at school, 1979. They used to have a happy hour so my money lasted a bit longer (and they had a really early video machine tank game).

jone-zee

05-11-2010, 04:18 PM

The Woolpack Selhurst

jone-zee

05-11-2010, 04:25 PM

I was about to edit my post, as I had that name in my head.

Heard many a story through the years, growing up around that area about the said pub.
:p

Not as welcoming as this place....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-most-dangerous-pub-in-britain-just-last-week-a-customer-was-shot-in-the-face-with-a-sawnoff-shotgun-cal-mccrystal-reports-1374856.html

SA Eagle

05-11-2010, 04:25 PM

I can't believe the Nowhere inn Particular's gone :sob:

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 04:29 PM

This website (http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/surrey/croydon.html) is worth a look if you really want to get depressed about closed pubs in Croydon.

Or pubs anywhere. Totally depressing :(

Il Padrino

05-11-2010, 04:39 PM

The Brockley Jack

This has gone all gastro and has a theatre attached. Not allowed to smoke in the garden either...

917L

05-11-2010, 04:41 PM

No idea whether the pubs are still going but:

The Golden Lion (Sydenham)
The Rutland (Catford Hill?)
The Two Brewers (Catford Hill?)
The CPH
The Forest Barn (Forest Hill)
The Greyhound (Sydenham)
The Brockley Jack

Golden Lion, Two Brewers, and Brockley Jack are still there

Barn is still there under another name, Rutlands gone I think

Missing

Swiss Cottage, Stanstead road (been flats for years now)

Green Man (derelict)
Squire/Tigers head (just knocked down)
Rising Sun (boarded up)
George? that used to be opposite Lewisham Hospital, now derelict or knocked down, cant recall which
Spotted Cow, Hither Green lane, boarded up

gcwhite

05-11-2010, 04:41 PM

Fountain Head

How long has the Fountain been gone?

Had some great times in there back in the 70s.

917L

05-11-2010, 04:42 PM

Three Tuns - Beckenham

Now a Zizzis I think

evvo111

05-11-2010, 04:42 PM

This has gone all gastro and has a theatre attached. Not allowed to smoke in the garden either...

The bloke that ran it used to let us in with our school blazers on. I think his son went to our school. All the good pubs have gone..:sob:

mickiet09

05-11-2010, 04:55 PM

How long has the Fountain been gone?

Had some great times in there back in the 70s.

Closed last year. Its still there behind hordings, don't know whether someones ever going to take it over or knock it down. Its a huge plot of land.

civil eagle

05-11-2010, 05:00 PM

the dog and duck in purley, it was a hovel but it was our hovel

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 05:03 PM

This has gone all gastro and has a theatre attached. Not allowed to smoke in the garden either...

Baffling rule that. The garden is always empty, and the smoking area (a couple of parking spaces behind the kitchen) is always rammed.

It's not all that gastro either, although the decor gives that impression. It's just a Greene King boozer with their standard microwave/deep fat fryer range of meals. That combined with the Greene King refusal to sell any decent ale means that I rarely go in.

917L

05-11-2010, 05:05 PM

Baffling rule that. The garden is always empty, and the smoking area (a couple of parking spaces behind the kitchen) is always rammed.

It's not all that gastro either, although the decor gives that impression. It's just a Greene King boozer with their standard microwave/deep fat fryer range of meals.

Considering the differening states of each pub its amazing the Chandos is a more popular pub

Though it is frequented almost exclusively by regulars

Del Gland

05-11-2010, 05:12 PM

Goat House for Clunkys Carnival
Ship for impressing women - yeah I know...sick!!
Beehive in Woodside for darts and Sunday lunchtime pissed stained cheese and biscuits
Orchard anmd Crown in Shirley for pulling stuck up women
Blue Anchor Blindley Heath for hot pies and underage drinking
Magdala in Dulwich for rock discos
Swan and Sugar Loaf - for Fox rock nights and watching Biker gang fights from under the table
Feathers next to New Scotland Yard for rock discos
Porter and Sorter for a lunchtime ploughmans and half of lager

Selhurst Celtic

05-11-2010, 05:16 PM

Lost pubs from my neck of the woods include:

Deptford Arms (Deptford)
Centurion (Deptford)
Crystal Palace Tavern (Deptford)

I'm afraid to tell you that The John Evelyn is soon to go and will become a bookmakers.
The Little Crown on the New Cross road is still just about going though. Held together by cat hair, blood, vomit, the muck off workman's boots and a very good pint of Guinness.

Ruskin Old Boy

05-11-2010, 05:17 PM

The Addington Hotel

http://www.francisfrith.com/new-addington/photos/hotel-c1965_n165035/

Great - the pic was taken in 1965 when it my local. No worries about getting served, even if you were under 18.

The same location, 2007:

Il Padrino

05-11-2010, 05:19 PM

Baffling rule that. The garden is always empty, and the smoking area (a couple of parking spaces behind the kitchen) is always rammed.

It's not all that gastro either, although the decor gives that impression. It's just a Greene King boozer with their standard microwave/deep fat fryer range of meals. That combined with the Greene King refusal to sell any decent ale means that I rarely go in.

The last time I was in here it had more tables set out for dinner than there were for drinking.

Certainly seemed to be a more food-orientated place than a drinking one I thought

SA Eagle

05-11-2010, 05:23 PM

Great - the pic was taken in 1965 when it my local. No worries about getting served, even if you were under 18.

The same location, 2007:

Did The Addington Hotel become The Cunningham ROB?

BB Bob

05-11-2010, 05:27 PM

the dog and duck in purley, it was a hovel but it was our hovel

I used to like the bar billiards table in there...

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 05:29 PM

Considering the differening states of each pub its amazing the Chandos is a more popular pub

Though it is frequented almost exclusively by regulars

The Chandos is ok for a Millwall pub. Can be a bit intimidating for the uninitiated, but I've never seen any trouble in there and thanks to their interesting approach to satellite subscriptions you can always catch a live game.

Ruskin Old Boy

05-11-2010, 05:31 PM

Did The Addington Hotel become The Cunningham ROB?

Indeed it did though when escapes me. Here's a pic taken in 2006, a few months before it was demolished:

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 05:31 PM

Did The Addington Hotel become The Cunningham ROB?

Yes it did.

It's now a Lidl supermarket.

sw16girl

05-11-2010, 05:33 PM

Railway Arms, Leatherhead, Bull Hotel, Leatherhead:(

The Bull had a desperate reputation before it closed - now of course it is the local Lidl.

I used to enjoy the Ranmore Arms before it got raided and shut and then turned into houses :(

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 05:33 PM

I'm afraid to tell you that The John Evelyn is soon to go and will become a bookmakers.
The Little Crown on the New Cross road is still just about going though. Held together by cat hair, blood, vomit, the muck off workman's boots and a very good pint of Guinness.

No pubs at all left on Deptford High Street. Shocking. Not been in the Crown for a while. The Star and Garter opposite closed down then reopened earlier this year, don't know how it fared. The Bird's Nest still does a good trade as it has a lot of live music.

Eaglettie

05-11-2010, 05:34 PM

The Red Deer and The Earl of Eldon

SA Eagle

05-11-2010, 05:37 PM

Is the pub on Addington Road, Selsdon, on the left coming up from Addington just before you come to the main shops in Selsdon still there? Think it may have been called The Stag?

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 05:40 PM

Is the pub on Addington Road, Selsdon, on the left coming up from Addington just before you come to the main shops in Selsdon still there? Think it may have been called The Stag?

No, it's not there anymore. It's a carpark for Aldi's now.

Coveta

05-11-2010, 05:49 PM

All Sarf Norwood for me
Goathouse, Ship, Signal, Queens and Wheatsheaf.
Two on the 'posh' side of the railway and three in Portland Road (nuff said)
By the way you could a pint of scrumpy in the Quuens for 10d !!

SA Eagle

05-11-2010, 05:50 PM

No, it's not there anymore. It's a carpark for Aldi's now.

I spot a theme emerging here. :grrr:

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 05:51 PM

I spot a theme emerging here. :grrr:

Yep - supermarkets are the new pubs :(

Andy in Rome

05-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Considering the differening states of each pub its amazing the Chandos is a more popular pub

Though it is frequented almost exclusively by regulars

Oh God - the Chandos - my local: though I would rather go teetotal than drink in there. Such a beautiful Victorian pub - but such a sh*thole... the 'regulars' look like extras who couldn't get a part in Deliverance because they were too hideous for the film.

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 05:55 PM

Great - the pic was taken in 1965 when it my local. No worries about getting served, even if you were under 18.

The same location, 2007:

Often used to get home quickly from there, due to being chased by regulars who I apparently "looked at".
Also remember a gang of hells angels / rockers pulling up and walking into the disco bit on the right hand side, all quiet for 5 mins, then it kicked off. I remember a regular showing me with pride his chairleg with bikers hair and blood on it.

Selhurst Celtic

05-11-2010, 05:56 PM

I quite like the Chandos.

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 05:57 PM

No, it's not there anymore. It's a carpark for Aldi's now.

http://i.thisis.co.uk/274116/article/images/397880/450183-vlarge.jpg

stevek

05-11-2010, 05:57 PM

The Cricketers, Ashburton
The Surprise, Shirley
The Sandrock, Shirley Road
The Robin Hood, Sutton
The Standard, Croydon
Dog and Bull, Croydon

All still going strong, afaik.

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 05:59 PM

The Cricketers, Ashburton
The Surprise, Shirley
The Sandrock, Shirley Road
The Robin Hood, Sutton
The Standard, Croydon
Dog and Bull, Croydon

All still going strong, afaik.

I used to work in The Surprise at weekends.

Del Gland

05-11-2010, 06:03 PM

All Sarf Norwood for me
Goathouse, Ship, Signal, Queens and Wheatsheaf.
Two on the 'posh' side of the railway and three in Portland Road (nuff said)
By the way you could a pint of scrumpy in the Quuens for 10d !!
Mild and Bitter was one shilling and four pence in the Goat House but I decided that Barley Wine was the money shot until my regular barfing became a concern to me!

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 06:03 PM

I used to work in The Surprise at weekends.

I used to work at The Rail View, until the pub guard dog attacked me:(

stevek

05-11-2010, 06:05 PM

I used to work in The Surprise at weekends.When?

Blind_Eagle

05-11-2010, 06:05 PM

I used to work in The Surprise at weekends.

I seem to remember a mynah bird in there that used to do a very credible 'Last orders at the bar please' and 'Can I have your glasses now'. Most offputting if it got its timing wrong.

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 06:06 PM

I used to work at The Rail View, until the pub guard dog attacked me:(

We all got sacked from The Surprise because one of the boys was stealing bottles of spirits and he wouldn't own up to it, and we wouldn't dob him in so we all got sacked :(

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 06:07 PM

When?

1978/79. I think the owner was called Frank at the time. Scottish man with a foreign looking wife, whose name totally escapes me.

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 06:08 PM

I seem to remember a mynah bird in there that used to do a very credible 'Last orders at the bar please' and 'Can I have your glasses now'. Most offputting if it got its timing wrong.

That was probably me :D

Blind_Eagle

05-11-2010, 06:10 PM

1978/79. I think the owner was called Frank at the time. Scottish man with a foreign looking wife, whose name totally escapes me.

Bloody hell you must have served me as we were still using the Surprise in 1978. Do you remember the mynah bird or had it gone by 78?

stevek

05-11-2010, 06:10 PM

1978/79. I think the owner was called Frank at the time. Scottish man with a foreign looking wife, whose name totally escapes me.

A little before my time, I'm afraid. Never the easiest pub to get served in under age. And I was 8/9 then.

You might have served my dad, though.

Spoons

05-11-2010, 06:10 PM

Elmer Lodge

Blind_Eagle

05-11-2010, 06:11 PM

That was probably me :D

If it was then your party piece of turning your back on the customer and then shitting in his beer really wasn't appreciated.

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 06:12 PM

Bloody hell you must have served me as we were still using the Surprise in 1978. Do you remember the mynah bird or had it gone by 78?

There certainly wasn't a mynah bird in there when I worked there.

I do remember Alan Ball used to come in quite a bit.

It was quite a cliquey sort of pub really.

You weren't the posh boy who lived at Bishops Walk and whose dad was the MD of Lamot lager, were you?

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 06:12 PM

You might have served my dad, though.

Oh thanks :(

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 06:13 PM

If it was then your party piece of turning your back on the customer and then shitting in his beer really wasn't appreciated.

Golly.

I don't ever remember doing that.

Big Gav

05-11-2010, 06:14 PM

The Rosendale
Alleyns Head
The Paxton Gypsy Hill
Half Moon Herne Hill
Tulse Hill Tavern
Railway Tulse Hill
Horns Tavern
White Hart West Norwood

Ruskin Old Boy

05-11-2010, 07:00 PM

Half Moon Herne Hill

My mum and dad had their wedding reception there ...

Louis

05-11-2010, 07:14 PM

Re. The Brockley Jack
This has gone all gastro and has a theatre attached. Not allowed to smoke in the garden either...
Not exactly gastro - it does more food, but it's still basically a pub rather than a restaurant. The theatre was there before the recent changes. It's much better than before I'd say, if I lived a bit nearer I'd be in there quite a bit.

waddoneagle

05-11-2010, 07:26 PM

The Bull had a desperate reputation before it closed - now of course it is the local Lidl.

I used to enjoy the Ranmore Arms before it got raided and shut and then turned into houses :(
Railway Arms was the 'Lads pub' :p

CPFC87

05-11-2010, 07:29 PM

This has gone all gastro and has a theatre attached. Not allowed to smoke in the garden either...

Not allowed to swear loudly in there either, as I found out about a year ago when I got told off by the landlord for calling my mate a **** too loudly. Nice pub though, good food to boot but ZERO birds in there.

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 07:34 PM

Nice pub though, good food to boot but ZERO birds in there.

I'm not surprised really if words like **** are being used :eek:

917L

05-11-2010, 07:36 PM

Oh God - the Chandos - my local: though I would rather go teetotal than drink in there. Such a beautiful Victorian pub - but such a sh*thole... the 'regulars' look like extras who couldn't get a part in Deliverance because they were too hideous for the film.

Its not exactly luxurious but its a good pub if you know people in there

I was a regular in there for a long time a few years ago and still have friends that drink there daily

I used to enjoy being the only Palace fan in the pub :)

Big Gav

05-11-2010, 07:42 PM

Oh and The Swan in Stockwell and the one in Landor Road, called The Landor I think :)

howard

05-11-2010, 07:56 PM

The Mark, Keston,gone.
The Two Doves just down the road towards Bromley Common.

Eagle El

05-11-2010, 07:59 PM

Cheer up! Just got back after a swift one in The Blue Posts In Berwick st.
Is that the one that Jessie Matthews' dad used to drink in?

Brummie Allan

05-11-2010, 08:11 PM

Started drinking in the George in Beckenham at 14 celebrated my 18th birthday there to the bemusement of the bar staff and carried on drinking there until I left the area aged 24.

Little Matt

05-11-2010, 08:44 PM

Nice pub though, good food to boot

Clearly you dont eat out much. It's average, defrosted pub fare at best.

cross_eyed_ed

05-11-2010, 08:59 PM

The Intrepid Fox on Wardour St was another loss.

Last time I went in there I was asked to take my tie off as I was too smartly dressed!:p

MicksSis

05-11-2010, 09:13 PM

Three Tuns - Beckenham
Is the correct answer.
When this pub was re-vamped in 1979/80 - it was the best place ever. :p

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 09:16 PM

Is the correct answer.
When this pub was re-vamped in 1979/80 - it was the best place ever. :p

I used to use the one opposite the Cinema when I was going to the Cinema. I can't remember what it was called though :confused:

MicksSis

05-11-2010, 09:19 PM

I used to use the one opposite the Cinema when I was going to the Cinema. I can't remember what it was called though :confused:
The Bricklayers Arms. That is where I met the man I married.
Wasn't though as exciting or lively as The Three Tuns.
The landlord was called Nigel - he was ok though.:)

Barbara4003

05-11-2010, 09:20 PM

The Bricklayers Arms. That is where I met the man I married.
Wasn't though as exciting ane lively as The Three Tuns.
The landlord was called Nigel - he was ok though.:)

That's it :p

I only used to go in there for one drink before the cinema. That used to be my favourite cinema until it went multi-screen :(

fang

05-11-2010, 09:23 PM

Last time I went in there I was asked to take my tie off as I was too smartly dressed!:p

Was that when it had become a haven for Goths?

Does anyone one remember the Woodman in South Croydon during the early 80's. It was like a club. Very classy Bose sound system, subdued lighting, well dressed geezers and their molls and more than a few Palace players.

GRAND UNION

05-11-2010, 09:49 PM

Pubs i used to use in 70's/80's

Norwood

Ship
Goat House
Albion
Cherries

Penge/Anerley

Goldsmiths
Crooked Billet
Palmaston (seen to remember the Landlord running off with the takings)
Mitre (1st time got pissed, Queens jubilee 77, only 16 then)
Golden Lion
Pawleyne Arms (local 78/83ish,Gregg the smallest barman in Sth London,i wonder if he's still there? :hi: )

Disco sat nite at Magdela or Dunn Cow

Come to think of it,never went home much :D

OscillateWildly

05-11-2010, 09:55 PM

Rocket in Crawley.

Marquis of Granby in New Cross.

gold76

05-11-2010, 10:41 PM

The Brigstock has gone, as has the Plough and Harrow. Along Broad Green, the Half-Moon and Rising Sun have long ceased being home to the local reprobates.

about time they did something with the half moon, been derelict for ages.. used to have a good game of pool in there & a beer or too before Cinatras!

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 11:28 PM

Not allowed to swear loudly in there either, as I found out about a year ago when I got told off by the landlord for calling my mate a **** too loudly. Nice pub though, good food to boot but ZERO birds in there. Good why do I want to listen to you call your mate?? a****

Biggineagle

05-11-2010, 11:29 PM

I'm not surprised really if words like **** are being used :eek::p well said Barbara

viking's no1

06-11-2010, 12:09 AM

The Lion. Pawsons Road
Wheatsheaf, Forten Eaf Pond
Bilkos Wine Bar at The Pond
Railway Telegraph
The Victory (shame to hear it's gone) I was only in there 10 years ago
The Catherine Wheel
Blue Anchor

racehorse-80s

06-11-2010, 12:27 AM

The Racehorse
Dukes Head
Fox N Hounds
The Greyhound
The Railway
all Carshalton and Wallington
Plus The Green Man or Bogey as it Was known as in sutton.
Also the Fox opposite West Croydon stn
All from the late 70s to early 90s

SA Eagle

06-11-2010, 12:39 AM

The Forestdale Arms (or Dales if it was masquarading under that name at the time) - what a shithole!

The George on the corner of Thornton Heath High Street and Whitehorse, my first pre game pub :p

I also remember a pub on the bridge opposite Thornton Heath station we used a few times (probably The Railway or similar) - had a toilet outside as I recall.

disco mixx kidd

06-11-2010, 12:44 AM

The Pied Bull Streatham :)
http://img01.beerintheevening.com/4c/4cb9b259512e5b40111678344d804ebe.jpg
The Greencoat Boy Westminster :)
http://www.lgf.org.uk/assets/Uploads/_resampled/SetHeight275-Greencoat-Boy.jpg
The Sussex Norbury :(
Thatsnot the sussex

SA Eagle

06-11-2010, 12:48 AM

Thatsnot the sussex

I'm guessing it's The Greencoat boy, Westminster?

Jammyknees

06-11-2010, 01:03 AM

The Forestdale Arms (or Dales if it was masquarading under that name at the time) - what a shithole!

The George on the corner of Thornton Heath High Street and Whitehorse, my first pre game pub :p

I also remember a pub on the bridge opposite Thornton Heath station we used a few times (probably The Railway or similar) - had a toilet outside as I recall.

I used to have to visit the forestdale arms every friday to pick up my wages and the first time I walked through the door the karaoke music stopped and literally everyone in the pub turned round to stare at me. 'Fond' memories abound of friday afternoons sitting in the beer garden/carpark swatting away hordes of wasps from a nearby nest and being eyed up by a pitbull with an erection.

ozzieEagle

06-11-2010, 01:04 AM

I attribute any hearing damage to those Magdala Rock nights of the Early 70's. (Phuck Rick Wakeman and his piercing voice)

There was another Pub down the Walworth Rd, very close to the nick down there that was great for pulling.

The Abbey... Abbey St, Bermondsey, opposite my Grand Parents flat... home to the younger Richardsons on occassion. Can remember being inadvertently drawn into a shout with one of them (circa 74) and the other locals, as the young blokes tried to impress about how many local shops they had done over that week.

St Georges Tavern, Perry Hill.. near the Church.. First pub I got pissed as a newt in, can remember crawling amongst the autumn leaves up Woolstone Rd to get home.

Asagaya_Eagle

06-11-2010, 01:08 AM

The Thurlow in West Norwood
Old Queens Head on Stockwell Road
New Queens Head on Stockwell Road
The Brixton Brasserie
Red Lion in Crown Passage

Hedgehog

06-11-2010, 01:13 AM

Is this thread about pubs that were there in your youth but not there today or just pubs you went into in your youth?

From the Bromley contingent, can I nominate The Saxon Tavern Southend Lane... I hear it is also a supermarket these days.

TAK

06-11-2010, 01:28 AM

It's about pubs, proper pubs of our youth, age and generation is not of a concern.

But there aren't many worthwhile left...

Jammyknees

06-11-2010, 01:38 AM

It's not a london pub but the tap and spile on hungate in Lincoln was where I spent many an evening getting slowly pickled as a student. Getting quite sad thinking about how those days are gone for ever

chatham_eagle

06-11-2010, 01:40 AM

I have some decent memories of the Weedswood Tavern, closed years ago. Site was bought by the local hood, think he tried to do an insurance job on the unocuppied site (doubt it was worth very much.) It's been rubble for at leas 10 years, assume it's the same.

Hedgehog

06-11-2010, 01:45 AM

It's about pubs, proper pubs of our youth, age and generation is not of a concern.

But there aren't many worthwhile left...
I spent most of my drinking youth in The Bird in Hand in Widmore Green... that must have been the mid to late 70's.

I think it's still there, albeit a gastro pub.

Also a few in Mottingham I frequented, that I'm struggling to remember the name of (the Starlight and the Queen's Head maybe?)

KYLIE MINEAGLE

06-11-2010, 01:57 AM

When I lived in Sydenham The Alfred cnr of Kenthouse Rd about 200 yds from home ,The Bricklayers Arms opposite the nick ,used to be a barman there ,the pub not the nick.The Kent house,The Golden Lion, and the Bridge House in Penge.Plus many others.Dunno how many are still left.

KYLIE MINEAGLE

06-11-2010, 02:02 AM

Seeing pictures of the Pied Bull reminds me of when I did the Youngs tour .You had to drink a beer in all of their pubs and get a signature to proove it.On completion you would send all them to the brewery ,John Young would write you a nice personal letter,send you a tie with CXXXV (135) the amount of pubs they had,and you picked up a barrell of special from your local.Fme we had a great party on the strength of that.

917L

06-11-2010, 09:07 AM

When I lived in Sydenham The Alfred cnr of Kenthouse Rd about 200 yds from home ,The Bricklayers Arms opposite the nick ,used to be a barman there ,the pub not the nick.The Kent house,The Golden Lion, and the Bridge House in Penge.Plus many others.Dunno how many are still left.

Alfred, Golden Lion and the Brick are all still there

917L

06-11-2010, 09:09 AM

From the Bromley contingent, can I nominate The Saxon Tavern Southend Lane... I hear it is also a supermarket these days.

Been gone for donkeys years, now a Lidl (or Aldi, cant recall which)

King William

06-11-2010, 09:17 AM

the sussex
tut n shive purley oaks (or all the different names it got called)
jolly farmers

pallet

06-11-2010, 09:20 AM

The 3 tuns Beckenham
The York in Victoria
The Tigers head Bromley (still there)
And the Kings head in Eltham as I used to live there.

gcwhite

06-11-2010, 09:26 AM

Seeing pictures of the Pied Bull reminds me of when I did the Youngs tour .You had to drink a beer in all of their pubs and get a signature to proove it.On completion you would send all them to the brewery ,John Young would write you a nice personal letter,send you a tie with CXXXV (135) the amount of pubs they had,and you picked up a barrell of special from your local.Fme we had a great party on the strength of that.

I did the tour with my mate. We always insisted on having at least one pint of Special in each pub. We used to get cross with people getting their list signed after a half or even a coke.

Wandsworth (16 pubs) was done on consecutive days and Richmond (8 pubs) on a Friday night. The final pub was in Sussex somewhere. Remember getting badly lost. Still got the tie. Haven't had a pint of Special in ages.

Apart from the Telegraph and the Fountain my favourite Young's pub was the Buckingham Arms in Petty France near the Passport Office. It was only a short stagger to Victoria at closing time.

KYLIE MINEAGLE

06-11-2010, 10:17 AM

Is this thread about pubs that were there in your youth but not there today or just pubs you went into in your youth?

From the Bromley contingent, can I nominate The Saxon Tavern Southend Lane... I hear it is also a supermarket these days.

I'm that old I can remember when it was the Alfred :S:

blondie eagle

06-11-2010, 10:21 AM

The pub I miss the most is the George that was on Keyworth street, slap bang in the middle of the South Bank campus. When I worked there we went in every day for lunch and most evenings. It was family run, the nicest people and punters (hardly any students). Many a night we were there til the early hours. When the owner retired he sold it to a firm that were going to keep the pub and build flats above it. They never got planning permission and sold it on to the uni who flattened it and built and ugly building on it!
I cried when it closed down, it was my second home!

gold76

06-11-2010, 10:56 AM

I'd fogotten how many youngs pubs I've frequented, used to live in Streatham & there are so many within a 5 mile radius of my old postcode.

Such lovely pubs too. I love the Nightingale near Wandsworth common & the County arms by the nick.

Then there's 5 up in Wimbledon village, really nice. A couple in Tooting, one in Mitcham & 1 in Balham.

Pistol Knight

06-11-2010, 11:02 AM

The Swan (West Wickham)
The Wheatsheaf (West Wickham)
The Eden Park Hotel (Eden Park)
The Greyhound (Keston)
The Golden Lion (Penge)(Matchdays)
The Goat House (S Norwood) (Matchdays)
The Mailcoach (Croydon)(Matchdays) for the strippers :)
The Orchard (Shirley)

gallery sex god

06-11-2010, 11:16 AM

elmer lodge- 1970s
the saxon southend lane-1980s
lamb and flag covent garden-1980s before it got all touristy
the albert crystal palace- 1990s
the north pole -marsh wall near canary wharf still going, still great
liberal club match days-closed last year

gcwhite

06-11-2010, 11:29 AM

The final pub was in Sussex somewhere. Remember getting badly lost.

Found it. I'd forgotten that it was also called the Fountain. Plumpton Green.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=.+BN7+3BX&sll=51.501756,-0.129611&sspn=0.000308,0.000603&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Lewes,+East+Sussex+BN7+3BX,+United+Kingdom&ll=50.936657,-0.060606&spn=0.001246,0.002411&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=50.936657,-0.060606&panoid=iM8UqhWnB43It0hDo7Kjrg&cbp=12,320,,0,5.2

Owngoal

06-11-2010, 11:34 AM

My all time fav was the Mooneys pub below the fluorescent displays of Piccadily Circus, lost when the Trocodero Centre was built - it was like being in a Dublin pub and had a great atmosphere.

Braders

06-11-2010, 11:46 AM

The 3 tuns Beckenham
The York in Victoria
The Tigers head Bromley (still there)
And the Kings head in Eltham as I used to live there.

The Kings Arms in Eltham is no more :( boarded up and soon to be a new housing development.

TAK

06-11-2010, 02:33 PM

O the one in Landor Road, called The Landor I think :)

Good call, I'm adding that to my list along with the Effra.

Psychokiller

06-11-2010, 02:44 PM

Fiddler and Firkin, South Croydon - the busiest pub in the area with live bands and ale brewed on the premises, you literally couldn't move in there on Friday and Saturday nights. So they closed it down and reopened it as a chavvy pool bar with wanker bouncers on the door and it slowly died. Now a Tapas bar.

The Brigstock, Thornton Heath - Served me and my mates from the age of 14. Big Irish fella ran it, he used to get pissed and have punch ups with his mates outside after the pub had shut, you'd then see them buying drinks for each other the next day.

Kings Cellars, Central Croydon - Was good for about 8 months then went shit and shut.

Alleycats, Katherine Street, Croydon - Rumour has it that this place never actually had a licence. Decent lively boozer that used to stay open until 3am around 1995 and had bricks on the tables as ashtrays.

fooz182

06-11-2010, 02:53 PM

The Chandos is ok for a Millwall pub. Can be a bit intimidating for the uninitiated, but I've never seen any trouble in there and thanks to their interesting approach to satellite subscriptions you can always catch a live game.
I can vouch or that

jjeagle

06-11-2010, 03:35 PM

The Freemasons (?) Just down from the Goat House. Had some great nights upstairs when they had bands on. Already mentioned but another shout for the Saxon in Bellingham?Downham?Lower Sydenham? Del Stevens (?)on a Friday night.

Loads of pubs in Bromley gone or gone down hill. Star & Garter and Greyhound. Both shut down but good in their day. White Hart and one opposite (Hennerkys??) and Railway outside Bromley South all long gone.

IMHO the best pubs now in Bromley are the little block of 5 in the back streets behind Bromley North station.
Freelands
Red Lion
White Horse
Angelsey
Crown & Anchor

I would class all of them still as "local" pubs and all more attractive than the plastic pubs in the town centre. However if l was 21 again, they would be the ones l would be frequenting ;)

Hedgehog

06-11-2010, 03:43 PM

Already mentioned but another shout for the Saxon in Bellingham?Downham?Lower Sydenham? Del Stevens (?)on a Friday night.
There was also the upstairs part called Spiders back in the 70's, which I never went up into.

I believe there was some supposed link to David Bowie and his whole Spiders from Mars thing. Also apparently his Mum live just down the street from The Saxon Tavern on Southend Lane, which probably compounded the urban myth back then.

Hedgehog

06-11-2010, 03:47 PM

IMHO the best pubs now in Bromley are the little block of 5 in the back streets behind Bromley North station.
Freelands
Red Lion
White Horse
Angelsey
Crown & Anchor

I would class all of them still as "local" pubs and all more attractive than the plastic pubs in the town centre.
Good call.

Was never a fan of The Freelands or the Crown and Anchor (which I spent a lot of time in back when), but the other 3 are/were definitely nice clean friendly pubs ran how pubs were intended.

disco mixx kidd

06-11-2010, 07:28 PM

Yep 3 I used to drink at have shut or become gastropubs

Rising sun spa hill
Woodhouse Syd hill
3 tons beck
Sussex norbury
Is rose and crown reeves corner still there? Loved that pub

leicester1

06-11-2010, 07:38 PM

'The Freemans',....the pub was named after the area of Leicester prison,Welford Rec park,the Rugby ground and beyond where the citizans of Leicester were allowed to graze their animals.

Situated next to the 'Victory' it was an ideal pub for Friday and Saturday evenings for a few drinks and pool,it then turned into a football away fans pub and it was soon wrecked,Bristol City i think,and now the site is an empty space and the 'Victory' is also boarded up.

Dispite only using them on non football days its sad to see.

mickiet09

07-11-2010, 12:13 AM

The Freemasons (?) Just down from the Goat House ;)Been closed for a long time, didn't get knocked down but converted to flats I think, with more new residences in what was the garden at the back.

Budgie Byrne

07-11-2010, 12:31 AM

The Rose and Crown, Crown Point.

The Cambridge, Crystal Palace.

The Queens Arms, Crystal Palace.

The White Swan, Crystal Palace.

The CPH, Crystal Palace.

Blimey you to!

bexleyeagle

07-11-2010, 12:49 AM

The North Pole (W10)= Went gastropub poncy about 4 years ago
Princess Victoria (W8)=Went poncy 3 years ago
The Greyhound (W8)=Always been a bit poncy
Earl of Percy (ladbroke grove)=Went poncy
Hand & Crown (Earls court) went £3.00 for a pint of coke poncy 5 years ago!

Guess who didn't grow up in South London! Can't find a non-poncy pub in west london anymore, one thing the north has over the south of England still...

Timbo

07-11-2010, 12:58 AM

Nearly all of the Sutton and Cheam pubs I remember from the sixties onward are still there, one notable exception as mentioned by Jonezee on page one being the Blackwater which was a great little pub

rossco00115

07-11-2010, 03:11 AM

That's the no smoking ban ballix for you.

Do you know which political party was the first to introduce a no smoking ban in public?

Well it was The Nazi Party!

They still smoke in the pubs and clubs at Westminster to you know :hmph: One rule for one and another for...well you know the rest don't ya.

RIP The Little House in Hendon NW4. Was a wee dive but I used to work there many years ago. Heard it closed down early this year.

laggin

07-11-2010, 07:06 AM

The Crown East Grinstead now got a naff name.

Dorset Arms same apparently now a gastro pub. :veryangry
bar kuba :p
dorset arms is now shite, used to be good before it turned all poncey
guinea pig now flats :sob:

laggin

07-11-2010, 07:08 AM

The Ship on Kennington Road has had a lick of paint but is still a good proper boozer.
(i used to live there in 1993 :lux:

laggin

07-11-2010, 07:11 AM

Three Tuns - Beckenham
isnt that the rat and parrott now or a zizzis?

Eye-dee

07-11-2010, 08:15 AM

3 tons beck

I used to go there :)

dbutler

07-11-2010, 08:50 AM

Is The Red Deer still going?
was in there last night for a quick one, then purley arms.

ChaceTheAce

07-11-2010, 10:10 AM

Windmill Wallington :lux:

CK

07-11-2010, 10:14 AM

The Rose and Crown, Crown Point.

The Cambridge, Crystal Palace.

The Queens Arms, Crystal Palace.

The White Swan, Crystal Palace.

The CPH, Crystal Palace.

Not The Hollybush?:p
Early years in the Queens and the Holly. Streatham Greyhound, for friday nights. Played a lot of darts so did just about all around the manor,Penge, Sydenham, Forest Hill etc.

Moved to Just off Camberwell Green mid 70's and had all around there, The Walworth, Old Kent etc. Bloody hundreds to choose from. Bet a lot have gone now:(

oz_da II

07-11-2010, 10:21 AM

I used to work in The Surprise at weekends.

I worked/lived in The Surprise for a few months in '98.

TheMexicanHorse

07-11-2010, 11:41 AM

Windmill Wallington :lux:

Massive Chelsea pub!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

TheMexicanHorse

07-11-2010, 11:43 AM

Fiddler and Firkin, South Croydon - the busiest pub in the area with live bands and ale brewed on the premises, you literally couldn't move in there on Friday and Saturday nights. So they closed it down and reopened it as a chavvy pool bar with wanker bouncers on the door and it slowly died. Now a Tapas bar.
.

Changed it's name to the "Duke's Head" became a under-age drinking paradise as you said.

racehorse-80s

07-11-2010, 12:02 PM

Massive Chelsea pub!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Hated the place along with the Cavalier now defunct.
The Melbourne and Dukes head were the only decent Pubs in wallington around the 70/80s

A Wooden Fish On Wheels

07-11-2010, 12:15 PM

Fiddler and Firkin, South Croydon - the busiest pub in the area with live bands and ale brewed on the premises, you literally couldn't move in there on Friday and Saturday nights. So they closed it down and reopened it as a chavvy pool bar with wanker bouncers on the door and it slowly died. Now a Tapas bar.No, the tapas bar ('Bodega') shut and moved to Warlingham Green where they took over Ye Olde Leather Bottle and renamed it 'Bojega' or something similar. The Dukes Head is now some sort of supposed posh restaurant owned by Chonchitas the tex-mex place over the road. It always looks empty and is bound to fail.

SE19_denizen

07-11-2010, 01:01 PM

what has happened to 'the cambridge' in upper norwood ?
how have they managed to keep their licence ? i have seen some mad stuff going on there every night of the week

Psychokiller

07-11-2010, 01:05 PM

No, the tapas bar ('Bodega') shut and moved to Warlingham Green where they took over Ye Olde Leather Bottle and renamed it 'Bojega' or something similar. The Dukes Head is now some sort of supposed posh restaurant owned by Chonchitas the tex-mex place over the road. It always looks empty and is bound to fail.
They should try restoring it to its former glory, bring back the real ale and live bands. What they did to that place was a lesson in how to **** up a profitable and successful, trouble free boozer!

Neil the Eagle

07-11-2010, 01:40 PM

They should try restoring it to its former glory, bring back the real ale and live bands. What they did to that place was a lesson in how to **** up a profitable and successful, trouble free boozer!

Wasn't this place formerly the Dukes Head? Or have I got the wrong place?

Psychokiller

07-11-2010, 02:02 PM

Wasn't this place formerly the Dukes Head? Or have I got the wrong place?
Yeah, before and after. In its previous "Dukes Head" incarnation it was a proper, if slightly rough, boozer. Then it became the Firkin, then reverted to the old name and opened as a chavvy pool bar complete with fights, wanky bouncers and overpriced fizzy lager.

Neil the Eagle

07-11-2010, 02:19 PM

In its previous "Dukes Head" incarnation it was a proper, if slightly rough, boozer.

Slightly rough? :) Around 1980-2, it was well known as some kind of unofficial HQ of the Croydon Skins and NF, to the point, Skrewdriver played a gig in there.

Went it there a few times as a callow youth as I was seeing one of the barmaids, and was scared shitless by the clientele everytime...

There were some decent pubs in the area though:

The Catherine Wheel, well, 'til Ron the Guvnor went a bit funny in the head...

Surrey Cricketers, bit of a 'Chelsea' boozer, but a decent backstreet local.

Royal Standard, probably the most unchanged Pub in Croydon (mind you, not been in for a good few years now), but always very busy, which sometimes wasn't a good thing.

Never did get on with the Bulls Head, but can't put my finger on why.

MicksSis

07-11-2010, 07:36 PM

The Clock House - Corner of Churchfields Road, when it was just a pub with a Public and Saloon bars. This was my first 'regular' - aged 15 - at 17 I moved onto the sophistication ofThe Three Tuns.:)

Psychokiller

07-11-2010, 07:42 PM

Slightly rough? :) Around 1980-2, it was well known as some kind of unofficial HQ of the Croydon Skins and NF, to the point, Skrewdriver played a gig in there.

Went it there a few times as a callow youth as I was seeing one of the barmaids, and was scared shitless by the clientele everytime....
I was talking more early 90s. I thought the Horn and Trumpet was the area's NF boozer?

La Bombonera

07-11-2010, 08:14 PM

Started in the Leather Bottle (Warlingham Green) when it was a proper local pub from about 15 years old onwards, firstly with my Dad. Wasn't a pub that you got easily accepted into in those days but had some great times there and still treasure a photo of half a dozen of us outside standing behind a big Palace Union Jack circa mid-80's. Far too many scrapes and adventures to list here.

Used the Horse Shoe (Warlingham) for a number of years; back then it had it's own off-licence at the front. Was one of the first pubs locally to jump on the gastro-bandwagon which was the death knell for that place and it never had the same atmosphere afterwards.

Good Companions (Hamsey Green); an 'ok' pub but it always lacked some atmosphere.

The Propeller (Purley Way); used to drink there many a lunchtime when I first started work on the Purley Way industrial estate. Cheap pints of John Bull and then back to the warehouse for drunken pallet-trolley races on a Friday afternoon :clown:

Blue Anchor and The Refuge (Croydon); used to get the 403 bus from Warlingham to do a fair bit of under-age drinking in these fine establishments. Don't why they considered us over-age, but they did!

The Cavavalier (Wallington); served those drunk and desperate long before Wetherspoons arrived. Funny little place though. Saw more local 'domestics' in that place than I care to remember! :p

long_way to _NJ

07-11-2010, 08:15 PM

The Signal, Portland Road (now the Port Manor), only place I could get a pint at 15! Happy days, record player in the side bar, you could bring and play your own 12"'s, plenty of lock-ins too. How the guv (Jim if I recall) got away if it, I don't know.

Neil the Eagle

07-11-2010, 08:28 PM

I was talking more early 90s. I thought the Horn and Trumpet was the area's NF boozer?

No idea. After the Dukes Head, I heard that the Canterbury Arms was their pub of choice, I was just glad that they were well out of my drinking manor.

patch

07-11-2010, 08:48 PM

The Clock House, Peckham rye, like a second office for me in the late 90s - breaks my heart to go in there now, similar to the Dulwich Woodhouse in how to ruin a decent pub.

Eagle El

07-11-2010, 08:48 PM

Arch 970, london bridge, spent many an hour in there whilst train after train home went!

Eagle Of Cray

07-11-2010, 08:51 PM

When?

Saturday's and Sunday's I believe.

Tim of the 80's

07-11-2010, 10:20 PM

The rubbing House on Epsom Downs, now an identikit pub restaurant, but then bands & discos most Fridays. The Robin Hood in Sutton. The Spread Eagle and Wellington Epsom which no longer exist and the Marquis of Granby which still does but may as well not. The Weavers Arms in Sun Street and the Fox in Scrutton Street EC2. The Rat at Walton on the Hill. The Green Man Ewell and the Jolly Coopers Epsom. The Rose at Rose hill. Banstead Athletic Football Club. The Railway (Stranglers Arms) Epsom.

TAK

08-11-2010, 11:59 AM

The Clock House, Peckham rye, like a second office for me in the late 90s- breaks my heart to go in there now.

Great way to **** up a lovely pub that.

Jukesy

08-11-2010, 12:14 PM

The Three Tuns in Beckenham - great memories! :lux:

Barbara4003

08-11-2010, 12:15 PM

The Three Tuns in Beckenham - great memories! :lux:

Oi.

Are you getting my lunch for me?

:angel:

Jukesy

08-11-2010, 12:15 PM

isnt that the rat and parrott now or a zizzis?

Zizzi's :sob:

A crime.

Jukesy

08-11-2010, 12:16 PM

Oi.

Are you getting my lunch for me?

:angel:

Yes my darling - I'll be in at noon, once the cleaner's finished :D

What would you like and does anyone else want anything?

Barbara4003

08-11-2010, 12:18 PM

Yes my darling - I'll be in at noon, once the cleaner's finished :D

What would you like and does anyone else want anything?

I'll text you :)

Jukesy

08-11-2010, 12:20 PM

I'll text you :)

Ok :p

big bad John

08-11-2010, 04:07 PM

The Brigstock, Thornton Heath - Served me and my mates from the age of 14. Big Irish fella ran it, he used to get pissed and have punch ups with his mates outside after the pub had shut, you'd then see them buying drinks for each other the next day.

.

That must have been Eric. He passed away a few years ago. He wasn't everyones cup of tea, but he knew how to run a boozer.

IAN WALSH

08-11-2010, 04:23 PM

mitcham mint, the railway, the greyhound all still going the sussex and the scooner both departed

Selhurst Celtic

08-11-2010, 05:27 PM

The Merry Go Round - Roundshaw.
The Forum - Whitgift Centre.
The Propeller - Fiveways.

Suitable attire for these establishments at approx 10pm on a saturday night would be:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/02/article-1134222-0345CC45000005DC-256_224x507.jpg

TheMexicanHorse

08-11-2010, 05:31 PM

They should try restoring it to its former glory, bring back the real ale and live bands. !

I think the Green Dragon has that market sown up now in central Croydon.

Jimmy Eagle

08-11-2010, 05:58 PM

Faucet and Firkin in Reigate. Now a Strada :(

stevek

08-11-2010, 06:02 PM

The Merry Go Round - Roundshaw.
The Forum - Whitgift Centre.
The Propeller - Fiveways.

I wouldn't have thought you'd have been old enough for the Forum.

cross_eyed_ed

09-11-2010, 09:44 AM

Sad to hear that the Saxon Tavern is no more. My mates and I had many a happy Friday evening tapping our toes along with Del Stevens' rock roadshow.

I spend most weekends of my teenage years in the Three Tuns (when it had the green decor and the Video Jukeboxes) which was ace.

Also what happened to the Firkin pubs that used to be everywhere? The Fox and Firkin in Catford was always a laugh with the cockney singalongs.

Psychokiller

09-11-2010, 09:45 AM

I wouldn't have thought you'd have been old enough for the Forum.
I used to buy Ecstasy and LSD from a bloke in the Forum when I was 15.

stevek

09-11-2010, 09:49 AM

When did it close? I would have thought it wouldn't have been open very long after you were 15, but maybe it lasted a bit longer than I'm thinking.

917L

09-11-2010, 09:50 AM

Also what happened to the Firkin pubs that used to be everywhere? The Fox and Firkin in Catford was always a laugh with the cockney singalongs.

Fox is still there

Psychokiller

09-11-2010, 09:52 AM

When did it close? I would have thought it wouldn't have been open very long after you were 15, but maybe it lasted a bit longer than I'm thinking.
I think they finally knocked it down around 1990-91?

stevek

09-11-2010, 09:54 AM

I think they finally knocked it down around 1990-91?

I was thinking it was a couple of years earlier than that - hence my earlier comments.

Psychokiller

09-11-2010, 09:58 AM

I was thinking it was a couple of years earlier than that - hence my earlier comments.
Was definitely there in 89 because that's when I was buying gear in there

leeeooooh2

09-11-2010, 09:58 AM

Its not exactly luxurious but its a good pub if you know people in there

I was a regular in there for a long time a few years ago and still have friends that drink there daily

I used to enjoy being the only Palace fan in the pub :)

There are a few of us Palace in there, my old man has been drinking in there for 40ish years, Dave and Stuart are Palace, as I am obviously. Millwall flag above the door but pretty Palace friendly.

leeeooooh2

09-11-2010, 10:14 AM

Oh God - the Chandos - my local: though I would rather go teetotal than drink in there. Such a beautiful Victorian pub - but such a sh*thole... the 'regulars' look like extras who couldn't get a part in Deliverance because they were too hideous for the film.

Were do you drink then?

P.S. you are a cock :veryangry

Away Day Eagle

09-11-2010, 10:15 AM

Was definitely there in 89 because that's when I was buying gear in there

100% still there in Summer 89.

Not knocked down until May 1991 or 1992.

stevek

09-11-2010, 10:18 AM

I was away a lot between 88 and 91 (at Uni) so things blur!

La Bombonera

09-11-2010, 10:20 AM

The Merry Go Round - Roundshaw.
The Forum - Whitgift Centre.
The Propeller - Fiveways.

The Propeller I've mentioned earlier, but The Merry Go Round on Roundshaw was a feisty little place to say the least. First full-time job was on the Purley Way Industrial Estate (Princes Way) and so many of the employees were both Roundshaw inhabitants and Merry Go Round regulars. There's something so quintessentially English about wire-reinforced windows :D

The Forum was a great laugh. Used to have many a lunchtime pint in there when I worked in Croydon and all too many well intended shopping trips to the Whitgift Centre were abandoned to the confines of The Forum. An 'Ind Coope' pub if I recall correctly as they used to stock Worthington E and Double Diamond. And what better way to enter a pub then via the travelator LOL!!! Don't doubt PK with regards buying his 'recreational accompaniments' there as towards the end it did have a dubious reputation .It was closed up for well over a year (maybe more?) so perhaps 1990-ish could be about right as to when it was finally bulldozed.

All seems such a long time ago now :( :p

James Varcoe

09-11-2010, 10:36 AM

Half Moon is totally unchanged in my long memory, apart from charging £3.50 for a pint.

ElwissAtMemphis

09-11-2010, 11:07 AM

Half Moon is totally unchanged in my long memory, apart from charging £3.50 for a pint.

I had a drink there a couple of days ago and to my surprise, they were advertising a gig by The Beat on 18th December. I suspect there's few (if any) of the original members in their current line-up. It might still be worth checking out.

That said, the Half Moon's inherent scumminess was 90% of its charm. There's something slightly wrong about being able to order pasta with pesto sauce and home-made pizzas in there now. You're right that it looks almost exactly the same as the 80's.

James Varcoe

09-11-2010, 11:08 AM

It is with some regret that I have to say that the pizzas are actually really good!!!!

Andy in Rome

09-11-2010, 11:19 AM

Were do you drink then?

P.S. you are a cock :veryangry

Well, thanks for that.:rolleyes:

I've had a couple of bad experiences when I've drunk in there in the past, which have maybe coloured my judgement. Which is why I don't go in there any more.

Barbara4003

09-11-2010, 11:23 AM

The Forum was a horrible pub. I only went in there once and someone smashed a glass in someone elses face. Twas horrible.

Civic

09-11-2010, 11:41 AM

The Railway, Purley (lino floor in the back bar)
The Cartoon, West Croydon

My first ales were had in the above. Happy days.

Barbara4003

09-11-2010, 11:42 AM

The Railway, Purley (lino floor in the back bar)
The Cartoon, West Croydon

My first ales were had in the above. Happy days.

Ooh - I had forgotten about The Cartoon. I used to go in there now and again. I tasted my very first McEwans (sp) beer in there :)

Suffolk Eagle

09-11-2010, 11:58 AM

Loved reading this brought back lots of good memories from down south

The Melbourne
The Windmill
The Greyhound
And as someone mentioned 'The Cottage of Content' as I went to carchalton Tech

Sweetpea!

09-11-2010, 12:07 PM

Why do people prefer these awful modern un-comfy biestros with chairs that are ornaments, bloody dreadfull to sit on?

Crazy fools

The acoustics in those places is truly appauling too.

Maz

09-11-2010, 12:14 PM

The answer to the OP question is "Blame the smoking ban".

HTH

Barbara4003

09-11-2010, 12:15 PM

Why do people prefer these awful modern un-comfy biestros with chairs that are ornaments, bloody dreadfull to sit on?

Crazy fools

The acoustics in those places is truly appauling too.

You're right about the acoustics. The less soft furnishing these places have, the more noisy they are.

I've noticed it with a lot of restaurants, too. Tiled floors and wooden seats don't help the acoustics at all. I've spent many an evening in one of these types of places just nodding my head at people who are speaking to me and hoping I'm nodding in the right places, as I usually can't hear a word they are saying because of all the other row going on in the place :hmph:

TAK

09-11-2010, 12:18 PM

It is with some regret that I have to say that the pizzas are actually really good!!!!

Not enough regret James.

Maz

09-11-2010, 12:19 PM

I've spent many an evening in one of these types of places just nodding my head at people who are speaking to me and hoping I'm nodding in the right placesIt's true.

Barbara at lunch...

http://www.all-creatures.org/anan/dognodding.gif

Barbara4003

09-11-2010, 12:21 PM

It's true.

Barbara at lunch...

http://www.all-creatures.org/anan/dognodding.gif

I've got it down to a fine art now :lux:

I can tell if they end their sentence on a high note, then I nod, if they end it on a down note, then I shake my head and tut a few times :D

James Varcoe

09-11-2010, 12:28 PM

Not enough regret James.

'It is with considerable regret'

Sweetpea!

09-11-2010, 12:31 PM

The answer to the OP question is "Blame the smoking ban".

HTH

Nah, this happened long long long before the smoking ban - don't clutch at straws.

stevek

09-11-2010, 12:32 PM

The answer to the OP question is "Blame the smoking ban".

HTH

A hell of a lot of the pubs that have been mentioned that are no longer with us, closed well before the smoking ban came in.

The correct answer is blame changing lifestyles and cheap supermarket drinks. (With the smoking ban being the equivalent of kicking a man when he's down.)

little al

09-11-2010, 01:46 PM

I had a drink there a couple of days ago and to my surprise, they were advertising a gig by The Beat on 18th December. I suspect there's few (if any) of the original members in their current line-up. It might still be worth checking out.

That said, the Half Moon's inherent scumminess was 90% of its charm. There's something slightly wrong about being able to order pasta with pesto sauce and home-made pizzas in there now. You're right that it looks almost exactly the same as the 80's.

The Beat are playing at the Abu Dhabi GP this weekend, looking forward to seeing them.

moverman

09-11-2010, 02:22 PM

There are so many so will mention only the ones where I could go in and was on first name terms with the barman/owner.

Norbury Hotel
Sussex
Schooner Norbury/SW16

Hare and Hounds
Railway Bell
Fox and Hounds Croydon

Father Redcap Camberwell

Horse and Groom
Pied Bull
Genevieve
La Pergola bar/restaurant Streatham/SW16

Thurlow Arms SE27

Wilton Arms Thornton Heath

Little Matt

09-11-2010, 02:27 PM

A hell of a lot of the pubs that have been mentioned that are no longer with us, closed well before the smoking ban came in.

The correct answer is blame changing lifestyles and cheap supermarket drinks. (With the smoking ban being the equivalent of kicking a man when he's down.)

Don't forget the emergence of Sky Sports, providing almost every possible sporting fixture in the comfort of your living room, then charging pubs half a month's takings for their subscription.

Archiebald Leitch

09-11-2010, 02:33 PM

Wheatsheaf
Horseshoe
Wilton
Simla
Telegraph
Victoria Cross
Catherine Wheel
and what was that little Fullers pub under the flyover?

Archiebald Leitch

09-11-2010, 02:34 PM

Father Redcap Camberwell

Blimey Pete, theres a pub. When did you go there?

stevek

09-11-2010, 02:38 PM

Wheatsheaf
Horseshoe
Wilton
Simla
Telegraph
Victoria Cross
Catherine Wheel
and what was that little Fullers pub under the flyover?

Royal Standard.

moverman

09-11-2010, 03:12 PM

Blimey Pete, theres a pub. When did you go there?

Around the mid 80's Archie, mostly weekends for the live music.

Steve Waller Band (ex Mannfred Mann)
Little Stevie Smith
9 Below zero
The Radical Sheiks

had some great nights down there, plenty of lock-ins :lux:

ElwissAtMemphis

09-11-2010, 05:01 PM

Around the mid 80's Archie, mostly weekends for the live music.

Steve Waller Band (ex Mannfred Mann)
Little Stevie Smith
...

plenty of lock-ins

Both regulars at The Half Moon too. They had a jam session every Sunday featuring one of them or possibly both.

Also, on the subject of lock-ins in that vicinity, The Brockwell Park Tavern was a guaranteed for after-hours drinking in the late 80's. They weren't even remotely subtle about it.

cross_eyed_ed

09-11-2010, 05:24 PM

I used to go and watch Steve Waller at the Father Redcap in the mid '80's. I recall that he used to do an amazing version of Superstition.

Sh*t. Just looked him up on Wikipedia and it says he died in 2000 :(

TAK

10-11-2010, 10:36 PM

Also, on the subject of lock-ins in that vicinity, The Brockwell Park Tavern was a guaranteed for after-hours drinking in the late 80's. They weren't even remotely subtle about it.

Same with the East Dulwich Tavern about the same time. Many a great night there.

viking's no1

10-11-2010, 11:02 PM

Around the mid 80's Archie, mostly weekends for the live music.

Steve Waller Band (ex Mannfred Mann)
Little Stevie Smith
9 Below zero
The Radical Sheiks

had some great nights down there, plenty of lock-ins :lux:

Some good new years eve drinks in there. Went past there today and it had a neon sign saying Hollywood I think. What a waste

leeeooooh2

11-11-2010, 03:16 PM

Well, thanks for that.:rolleyes:

I've had a couple of bad experiences when I've drunk in there in the past, which have maybe coloured my judgement. Which is why I don't go in there any more.

Oh, ok, thats fair enough :p

Oh God - the Chandos - my local: though I would rather go teetotal than drink in there. Such a beautiful Victorian pub - but such a sh*thole... the 'regulars' look like extras who couldn't get a part in Deliverance because they were too hideous for the film.

Not nice, in fact a bit Cockish. :veryangry

Archiebald Leitch

11-11-2010, 04:16 PM

Royal Standard.

Thats the place - always a nice pint in there - is it still open?

muji

21-11-2010, 12:06 PM

Both regulars at The Half Moon too. They had a jam session every Sunday featuring one of them or possibly both.

Also, on the subject of lock-ins in that vicinity, The Brockwell Park Tavern was a guaranteed for after-hours drinking in the late 80's. They weren't even remotely subtle about it.

And from memory didn't U2, Van Morrison and The Police play at the Half Moon way back?

art malice

21-11-2010, 06:38 PM

Thats the place - always a nice pint in there - is it still open?

It is. Cracking little boozer

1905

21-11-2010, 07:55 PM

There are so many so will mention only the ones where I could go in and was on first name terms with the barman/owner.

Norbury Hotel
Sussex
Schooner Norbury/SW16

Hare and Hounds
Railway Bell
Fox and Hounds Croydon

Father Redcap Camberwell

Horse and Groom
Pied Bull
Genevieve
La Pergola bar/restaurant Streatham/SW16

Thurlow Arms SE27

Wilton Arms Thornton Heath

Wow there are some memories there for me. Pied Bull was my local, Greyhound when i was younger and didnt know better :) ha and Genevieve when venturing further into St'reatham.

Was back visiting the folks recently, and had a good couple of pints at the pied bull and played some pool, seems allot better than when i last went (about 5 years ago)

P.S Scooner was what was the Berni/William 4th? i only really remember from Berni times - and the will 4th great pub, sadly missed :(

mrgins

21-11-2010, 09:58 PM

Wheatsheaf
Horseshoe
Wilton
Simla
Telegraph
Victoria Cross
Catherine Wheel
and what was that little Fullers pub under the flyover?
Wasn't that the Eagle. Friend of mine owned it in the 60's

mrgins

21-11-2010, 09:59 PM

The Star in hooley, the Gun in croydon:sob:

moverman

23-11-2010, 07:01 PM

the Gun in croydon:sob:

The Gun is still there mrgins.

I was in there a couple of months ago.

I had my stag do in there back in May 1997 when Dave Garland (ex Palace and now manager of Croydon Athletic) ran it.

There was a particularly pleasant looking Lithuanian barmaid working there back in the summer who was getting alot of attention from the fruit and veg guys from Croydon market. :love: :lux:

My mum worked in alot of Croydon boozers back in the 70's, The Ship, The Royal Standard, The Duke of Gloucester, The Blue Anchor ......all still trading today in one name or another

mrgins

23-11-2010, 08:29 PM

The Gun is still there mrgins.

I was in there a couple of months ago.

I had my stag do in there back in May 1997 when Dave Garland (ex Palace and now manager of Croydon Athletic) ran it.

There was a particularly pleasant looking Lithuanian barmaid working there back in the summer who was getting alot of attention from the fruit and veg guys from Croydon market. :love: :lux:

My mum worked in alot of Croydon boozers back in the 70's, The Ship, The Royal Standard, The Duke of Gloucester, The Blue Anchor ......all still trading today in one name or another
Cool. Glad to hear that:p

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